Tue Aug 10 15:39:34 +0000 2021
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I may as well start a thread for the Lindell Symposium. Mute this if you're not interested in random hot takes and the occasional technical analysis.
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Most everyone on stage right now has been involved with the Antrim case and DePerno in someway. It's Phil Waldron from ASOG, Douglas Frank from bad math powerpoints, "The Professor" from The Professors Record, and Pat Colbeck, a former MI state rep.
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Lindell's just full on ranting, and Frank keeps trying to get Lindell to acknowledge a note that Waldron passed him. But Lindell cannot be stopped.
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BTW, more background on "The Professor", AKA David K Clements. He is (or was?) a professor of business law at New Mexico State University. He now hosts a podcast popular amongst the stop the steal crowd.
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Lindell keeps interrupting everyone else on stage with him. He just cut off Frank to announce that Cuomo is resigning in 2 weeks (to applause). He then somehow tied that to vaccines and small businesses?
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They're still ranting about Soros, so I suggest you instead read through the Dominion suit against Byrne, because it's very, very interesting. They allege that Byrne started working with ASOG in August 2020, and that Byrne paid for the Antrim ASOG report
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316.1.0.pdf
Apparently they will be releasing the PCAPs scrolling them on the screen, and Lindell is legitimately telling people to freeze the screen to review them. Waldron said they will be in "hex er...binary format".
This is not how you release legitimate PCAPs
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Colbeck tried to tell Lindell that they're going on break. Lindell screams that THEY'RE NOT GOING ON BREAK, PUT THE MOVIE BACK ON, YOU GUYS CAN EAT BUT I'M NOT EATING, I WILL BE HERE FOR 72 HOURS STRAIGHT AND I NEED TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT BEFORE THEY RUIN OUR SIGNAL
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I hadn't caught this video earlier, but it's basically a commercial for ASOG. It's also recapping a lot of what's been filed as part of the Antrim lawsuit
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They just "translated" a Soros quote into "truth". Like they just took something he said, changed it to fit their "Soros is evil" narrative and called it "translating into truth"
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Ok, so now this video is picking up where I had started earlier this morning. I love that Lindell hyped this as 72 hours of content and information, but so far several of those hours have consisted of the same looped video and Lindell talking about all the information he has
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Doug Frank claimed that they’ve done multiple “audits” that have not been disclosed. Including all the network traffic that happened before during and after the election.
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He also said “your phone is airgapped but it’s still connected to the internet”. I think they think anything that is not hard wired to a network is airgapped.
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Frank’s claiming that an algorithm hacked over 3,000 counties and that their PCAPS reveal that.
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Here's a great analysis by @pbump on Frank's math nonsense
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/12/how-people-who-should-know-better-abuse-math-bolster-election-fraud-lie/
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None of Frank's presentation so far is new information. He's been giving this low rent TED talk to anyone that'll listen for months.
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We've reached the stage where Lindell is googling himself and reading the bad press he's received out loud.
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I'm getting the vibe that Doug Frank has glommed onto Lindell for fame(-ish) and money. Especially since he was put on a forced sabbatical from the school he taught part time at.
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Lindell rants, Frank claps, laughs, or agrees. Then the cycle repeats. David Clements is on stage, but silent.
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I'll give it to Lindell, he's got an impressive amount of stamina. He's been screaming for hours and I'm now convinced he can easily keep it up for at least 72 hours.
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If this thread seems light on content so far, it's because there's not been much actual data shared. Frank's presentation had some data, but none of it was new. So far it's been talking about the data, and how brave they are, and how terrible the media is, and Soros, of course
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Everyone is also really leaning on their credentials, none of which have anything to do with cyber security, or elections.
Clement's is saying that, because he's a lawyer, he knows that they could win a court case by proving fraud.
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Jesus, Lindell is really upset that the media dared to say he delayed his symposium. He's mentioned it dozens of times so far.
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By the way, if you haven't caught @JAdomian's Lindell impression, do yourself a favor and watch it https://youtu.be/1WImFIJ5gxg?t=426
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Lindell's now talking about how upset he is about having to eat outside because of COVID. And how California told restaurants not to play the Superbowl.
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Lindell claims his sons friend has an IQ of 182. Einstein's IQ was reportedly around 160 (as scored with modern testing)
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After reading some of the Dominion V Byrne suite, Byrne seems to be fairly clever, and may not actually believe fraud occurred. He had allegedly been planning since 08/20 to claim the election was stolen.
Lindell, on the other hand, seems to really, truly believe this stuff
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Lindell, again reading about himself on the internet out loud. To a standing ovation.
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Him keeping up with press reporting on the cyber symposium in near real time is reminding me of this clip from Spaceballs
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Lindell is very, very upset about these articles about him breathlessly screaming that he's going to go for 72 hours straight. He's called him a traitor and coward.
I'm really surprised (but not really) that people are letting him continue with this. It's not a good look.
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Now 3 grown men are upset because Doug Frank just learned that his TikTok was suspended.
Why won't Lindell sit back down?
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The bits of this where Lindell's just given a mic and let loose have been pretty entertaining. But also depressing, because it does seem like he might be struggling or going through a crisis, as well as being taken advantage of.
It's also been non-stop dis and misinformation.
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Lindell seems to think the people who have been writing the articles he's been reading out loud are in the audience.
Which is a pretty silly assumption given that the room is very small and he's live streaming it.
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I should have taken the $5 million bet. I legitimately thought there might at least be more bad data...but so far there's been nothing. Just bluster.
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Pat Colbeck is now on stage, I guess to talk about the system he put together for the mock elections that will be hacked live, in front of our eyes. He can also talk cyber, apparently.
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They haven't given many details about what exactly the mock voting system is...whether it consists of actual electronic voting machines, or if they cobbled together their own thing (which of course would make any mock election hack demo completely irrelevant)
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Well, Colbeck just said it's a "homegrown system", and that all election systems have a common background called "SQL Server".
I don't believe that's accurate...at all. I'm sure most voting systems do use some kind of SQL-based db, but it's not all going to be SQL Server
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Ok, I know where this is going. DePerno's witness Jefferey Lenberg filed a report saying that if you directly modify election results using SQL server, the results will have been modified. Which...yes.
Thread on it here:
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I tuned Colbeck out to focus on this thread. A reputable individual is there and is looking at the data. So far, nothing.
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I missed the end of Colbeck's thing, but I assume people are casting their mock votes for the mock election. Lindell's back up with Bannon.
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And this (but really, follow this thread)
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Colbeck's back, someone has broken into their mock system and reset it using a cell phone.
Again, they have not disclosed any technical details about what they're using for their mock elections, or how the individual apparently hacked it.
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A common theme through Rob's thread is that people have a lot of questions, but answers are in short supply. Waldron apparently introduced the packet analysis breakout but couldn't answer any questions.
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Bannon just shouted out the "great patriots in the Telegram chatrooms"
These great patriots?
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Lindell comparing PCAPs to "taking a picture back in the 70...you couldn't alter it"
This is, of course, wrong.
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Pretty sure Bannon just started cracking up when Lindell mentioned his past crack addiction.
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Clements called Lindell "America's Heartbeat".
Yeah..a heart that has been beating at 220BPM since 4AM.
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Lindell has been hyping a thing where they show "the big lie" then show "the big truth". Which turned out to just be someone pulling up a png showing the "lie" then flipping to another one showing the "truth".
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He's now just flipping through states that went for Biden, and saying that they actually went for Trump. Again, he's provided no actual data (either on the stream, or to folks on-site to analyze the data)
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Eduardo Bolsonaro just presented Lindell with a MAGA hat signed by Trump, so that's nice.
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Eduardo is talking about Brazil's election system, which apparently only counts votes electronically, and does not use paper.
This isn't really comparable to what happens in the states, because most of the country does have some form of paper ballot or receipt.
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There is a bizarre pro Bolsonaro sizzle reel playing right now. It's giving off mad fascist vibes
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There's been a lot of bluster about ALL THE DATA THAT WILL BE IRREFUTABLE.
Meanwhile, here's someone there to analyze the data.
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Lindell's been gone, so Clements and Bannon are riffing. They're now talking about how AMC theaters is owned by the CCP, and that China will indoctrinate American's through controlling the films that are made and released.
They still haven't shown any data.
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I also missed that he's released some of the PCAPs....but of course, in the form of a movie, where they just scroll endlessly. Which will never not confuse me.
You can watch it on his site here: https://home.frankspeech.com/video/click-here-view-2020-election-data or https://cdn.frankspeech.com/rollingvideoloopmp4197246/hls/rollingvideoloopmp4197246.m3u8 if you don't want to sign up
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Lindell's back with Doug Frank and Sonny Borelli, and HOW HAVE I MANAGED TO WATCH THIS FOR LIKE 6 HOURS STRAIGHT
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Lindell is attacking this article, which correctly states that the video is too blurry to make sense of. Lindell didn't fully read the article, so his rebuttal doesn't really make sense though.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/08/mike-lindell-loop-video-inconsistencies.html
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Lindell is now reading this article out loud. And pronounced voila as "vo-ey-la"
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Doug Frank is riffing on Philip, saying "he can't read a PCAP lol"
Thing is, @ErrataRob can't read it either, because it's not a PCAP so..
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Lindell is now paging @ErrataRob and calling him to the stage. Oh I am SO here for this. Please go up there Rob.
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In other words, they're showing a pcap. It seems to show a client communicating with a SQL Server instance, but they're not actually clicking on the correct packet, so I can only see the Wireshark summary column.
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Not a single person on stage actually knows what they're looking at, or how to answer any questions about it. All they know is that it's a PCAP.
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After Frank explained what a PCAP was, Lindell asked him if that's why AZ wouldn't want to give up the routers.
Frank replies, "Yeah, it's got all the packets in them!"
Spoiler: The packets (at least from the relevant election dates) aren't in the routers.
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Colbeck is saying that ElectionSource wants to replace batteries in Dominion ICX units in Michigan, which he says will wipe the devices. Replacing the batteries will not wipe the devices.
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He also claims that the contract with the state did not mention replacing the battery. That is also false.
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Fun Fact: Colbeck is so courageous and brave that he blocked me on Twitter before I ever interacted with him.
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Borelli just made a joke about how many suburban mom's were at stop the steal rallies, and how if you're a single guy, there's a lot of easy targets.
Sonny Borelli is disgusting.
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I'm not going to lie, I've zoned the hell out for the last 20 or so minutes, but Garret's been paying attention.
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An unexpected side effect of watching this all day: Lindell's voice is becoming oddly soothing, and now it's lulling me to sleep.
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I'm going to run and grab an energy drink while Lindell's flipping through MS paint pictures like someone hosting an off-brand gameshow night at a church.
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One question I absolutely need answered: @ErrataRob how the food?!
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Meanwhile, on Telegram, Ron seems to be hinting that some of the incriminating data will be released via torrent.
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Doug Frank just claimed that Hillary Clinton and Rock The Vote hacked into a PA voter database ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Frank just sits up there most of the time and acts like a real shitty hype man. It's kind of hilarious to watch.
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So Frank just said that they haven't released any data yet because their [not Dennis Montgomery] source is "literally scared to death" and is considering backing out.
They also teased that they might throw Montgomery under the bus.
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Lindell's back on stage, and is acting SHOOK compared to his earlier ferocity. Their source's office was raided, or something? He seems to be setting everyone up for disappointment. Sounds like the data may not be released until Thursday now?
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Ok, I think based off how he's talking that the source he was going to unveil is also Ron Watkins' whistleblower, who seems like it might be a Mesa County, CO election official. https://www.gjsentinel.com/news/western_colorado/sos-probe-of-clerk-peters-office-could-lead-to-criminal-charges/article_bc30f4c4-f94a-11eb-8a8c-73381ff7968e.html
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Yep, confirmed (and Kevin beat me to it) - It's Tina Peters, who has recently been suspected of leaking information to Ron Watkins.
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They're being very indignant about the fact that their office was searched, and said that the CA SoS could have been more quiet about the issue.
The person accused of leaking info via Ron Watkins, who was being very dramatic about it, is upset that the CA SoS wasn't more low key
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This has taken a strange, but not entirely unpredictable turn. It doesn't seem like we're going to be getting a big reveal tonight.
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A VA state senator who was cited for their involvement on 1/6 is on stage now, ranting about how she's upset that they built a plexiglass cage around her on the senate floor because she refused to wear a mask because masks are socialism.
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She's going to request an election audit in VA. Because of course she is. Lindell's looking antsy because she won't give up the mic. I don't think this is the bombshell he wanted, but she seems to be loving the attention.
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It seems like Ron and Lindell's camps may have collaborated to release some of the data supplied by Tina Peters prior to the event.
On 7/30, Ron was skeptical about the symposium and the PCAPs.
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By 7/31, he was walking that back, and then by 8/2 he was hyping up his whistleblower leaks.
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There's no way it was a coincidence that Lindell's big reveal happened to involve the same person..but I'd bet they weren't counting on getting caught prior to the symposium.
Also explains why Ron had been claiming the whistleblower was a Dominion employee.
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I think their plan was to:
- leak info via Ron, and to claim it came from a Dominion employee
- trot out Peters to corroborate the content of the video, legitimizing both Peters and Ron's whistleblower and their claims
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- Reinstate trump
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Claiming the whistleblower was a Dominion employee also gives a bit of cover and misdirection so that Peters could have maybe flown under the radar a bit longer.
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This would also explain why Ron thought he might be calling in. Tina Peters walks on stage and drops her "bombs".
They call in Ron who corroborates her information with his Dominion whistleblower leaks.
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The plan unraveled when Tina Peters' cover was blown a day early.
Now Ron's trying to invent a new conspiracy theory to provide cover for what a fuckup this has become by claiming the CO SoS leaked the passwords...to Ron?...themselves, in order to frame Tina Peters.
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Meanwhile Rob still hasn't seen data.
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