Wed Aug 11 16:36:32 +0000 2021

 · 12 min read
 · trapezoid of discovery

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Cyber Symposium: day 2 thread. Let’s goooooo!

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I missed who the guy in the tactical glasses and green hat is. Is that Spyder?

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I try to be civil, but Doug Frank is a fucking clown.

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Stream keep dying for everyone else too?

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“I’m not making an accusation here because I don’t have evidence” - Dr. Doug Frank, perfectly summing up the Symposium

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I love how they always assume their inability to get their streams working is some kind of an attack.

Trust me my dudes, no one cares enough to attack you.

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Frank just said “ok baby let’s snuggle” to a woman who stood up to ask a question.

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Here they are, snuggling.

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Ok, I missed a chunk of Ron's walk through because of course he happened to get things working while I was walking my dog.

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I hadn't been steadily following the stream earlier, but just caught the claim that these were posted online and from Mesa. I'm skeptical, but will see if I can verify this somehow.

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Did anyone catch the supposed origin of these files? I know they said they were "public", but they seem to have a backup that has a "logs" directory, and an updated image that is missing that folder?

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Ok yeah, maybe they are in fact from Mesa, because they mentioned the date 5/23, and the Dominion update in Mesa was on 5/25. They also seem to have access to a backup made prior to the update, and Ron's video showed Acronis making a backup.

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One thing that is very clear: no one knows how to look at what they have. One person just admitted to learning FTK toolkit last night.

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They're really really stumbling through what they have. Ron keeps asking questions that no one knows how to answer, and Ron's excuse is that he's not a Windows admin.

Let's get audience member Jeff Bonjourno up there (best name ever btw)

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Worst Mystery Science Theater 3000 episode ever

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Confirmed - they're browsing images captured from Mesa County.

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I'm not a lawyer, but I have a feeling their "this data was found publicly" defense may not hold up, especially since they seem to be going out of their way to confirm that the information came from Mesa.

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Someone get Tina Peters a lawyer who will advise her on what she should be doing right now, because I promise you everything she's doing is the opposite of what should be done.

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Ron: "I'm still looking for logs. There's logs everywhere"

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What they're doing right now is fairly dangerous. If you've watched from the start, it's obvious no one on stage understands what they're looking at, but it's not stopping them from making inflammatory comments about what they're seeing.

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Oh jesus, the "Cannabis Conservative" is going off. He opened with "I'm not a computer guy" then repeated the debunked claim that adjudication logs in Antrim, MI were deleted.

Antrim did not have adjudication logs because they did not purchase the Dominion adjudication module

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I'm not saying whatever is dated 1997 belongs on the system they're looking at, if old code freaks them out they should stay away from Linux coreutils

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Doug Frank notches a victory: "Hooray, I think we just equipped our legislators with one key point" (I was away when the point was made, so I missed it)

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They're looking for someone...ANYONE...who understands how to read a Windows batch file.

Which does not inspire confidence in Ron's skills. If Ron's a super 1337 *nix admin, he should be able to parse out a Windows batch file, as they're similar to bash scripts.

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I'm not hammering on this to be a jerk, but I feel that it bears repeating: Ron and the guy on the stage in the flannel shirt (and of course Frank) have no idea what they're doing or what they're looking at. Ron is just...clicking things.

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They're making a big deal about logs being deleted. But here's the thing: they're obviously viewing a backup image in addition to the post-update image. How did they get the backup image? Well, Dominion created it before they performed the update

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HOLY SHIT..

Ron stops everything to announce that his lawyer informed Ron to state that Conan James Hayes took physical hard drives from Mesa County, CO.

Who's Conan Hayes? Well, let me introduce you:

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Ron's lawyer isn't going to just randomly ask Ron to make that statement, and Ron's smart enough to try and avoid getting into legal hot water. So I bet that Conan was in Colorado at some point.

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Ron updated his statement to clarify that, per his lawyer, Conan Hayes did have permission to have the physical drives, but did not have permission to share the images. Ron's lawyer received that information from Shiryana Bishop (? I'm not sure of the spelling)

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Per Ron's lawyer, Bishop identified herself as a colleague of Tina Peters

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Doug Frank: "But you're right, it's really the blood and treasure that's priceless"

What the fuck is happening today

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I wonder if the nice lady thanking Ron Watkins has ever been to 8kun.

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If anyone has a clip (with audio) of either or both of Ron's Conan statements, please let me know.

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Oh boy, Ron's trending. Fuck this timeline.

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Thanks to @troycoverdale for jogging my memory - it was apparently Sheronna Bishop that provided the hard drives to Conan Hayes, per Ron's lawyer.

Bishop is Lauren Boeberts former campaign manager.

Bishop was on stage last night with Peters

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So, to recap: Ron's lawyer asked Ron to state that Sherrona Bishop provided Conan Hayes with the physical Mesa County EMS hard drives, but that Conan did not have permission to then share the disk images of those hard drives.

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Looks like Ron's session is over, and I'm guessing that it didn't go as well as anyone would have liked.

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I think the guy on stage understands data.

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Ron Watkins is now sharing magnet links to the images he reviewed. As best I can tell, those links were first posted to QResearch on 8kun, at around 10:41AM PST, after Ron had been onstage for a bit, but before he shared them out on his Telegram

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"Just found these"

Yeah, ok, Ron

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Correction, the links were likely posted to 8kun hours before Ron took the stage - dumb question, but what timezone are the 8kun timestamps in??

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Alright, seems like 8kun gives you local time, so the files were posted at 03:41 PST/10:41 UTC - at least 6 hours prior to Ron taking the stage.

My guess is that Ron posted them to 8kun prior to their existence being revealed as plausible deniability.

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I'm noticing my thread got pretty hectic as things were going sideways for the symposium, so a quick update of what's been revealed until now: the biggest reveal has been that they 1) have images of the Mesa, CO EMS, and 2) those images are being published online

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As far as any findings discovered during Ron's segment:

They made a lot of noise about deleted logs (which I will debunk momentarily), and hyped up the existence of a batch script that disabled a couple SQL server security settings. I'm still looking into the batch script.

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It's insane to me that, as far as I can tell, the links to the Mesa images were posted to 8kun first.

For maximum plausible deniability, you'd think they'd publish them to a public tracker, and not /Qresearch/. Maybe it was Ron trying to be cheeky cc @CullenHoback

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Joel Oltmann: "They've got a bulge in their pocket. They've got bulges everywhere!"

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Ron had been hinting that they would be sharing something more substantial than PCAPS (like images from Mesa) and also happened to be posting around 30 minutes after the links to the images were posted to 8kun.

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Things got crazy, and this thread fell off as I'm catching up on a bunch of stuff at once. I promise I'll return to it ASAP.

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RE: the duck sounds you may have heard today: that appears to be their way of warning whoever is on stage that they're saying something that may be legally questionable, and that they should probably shut up now.

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Finally, a "cyber" person is on stage, but Doug Frank incorrectly stated their credentials multiple times. Ironic how they shit on government cybersecurity positions 99% of the time, but hyped up this person's experience at Sandia

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Had to step away again for a thing, hope to be back within the hour